tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post7223239412691575478..comments2023-10-12T06:29:13.317-06:00Comments on Beck: Any suggestions?Beckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06159223254071653666noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-74613106029348292622011-07-22T14:02:31.784-06:002011-07-22T14:02:31.784-06:00I hadn't read your post or the comments until ...I hadn't read your post or the comments until after I wrote my post and read your comment. What a conicidence. I like MohoHawaii's suggestion. I'm going to read that talk.Foresterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13252666368088857269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-5353186548387192542011-07-16T18:54:56.517-06:002011-07-16T18:54:56.517-06:00ANON: WOW! I really think you should teach the l...ANON: WOW! I really think you should teach the lesson! <br /><br />Thanks.Beckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06159223254071653666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-53696757492593628642011-07-16T17:31:07.955-06:002011-07-16T17:31:07.955-06:00i'd teach the story of the good samaritan. it ...i'd teach the story of the good samaritan. it teaches to love and serve like no other. he noticed a need, his heart was moved, he was prepared to serve (had the oil and wine with him), made time even though he was busy (since he could not stay the whole time), delegated some of the care (showing it's ok that you can't do it all) and didn't judge. he did it all not because he was assigned since no one would know but because he felt compassion. he didn't have to let others know that he, too, was persecuted, he merely did the right thing because his motive was pure...he lovedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-90151917031900126772011-07-15T10:45:39.721-06:002011-07-15T10:45:39.721-06:00The links I posted are to the original, unedited v...The links I posted are to the original, unedited version. The point is that the Gospel <i>is</i> more important than the Church. Who could possibly argue against this point?<br /><br />This was my favorite conference talk, ever. (Before they changed it to keep the authoritarians happy.)MoHoHawaiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15086670779804942122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-54723335912117411822011-07-15T07:45:17.015-06:002011-07-15T07:45:17.015-06:00SCOTT: I like the "twist" you suggest, ...SCOTT: I like the "twist" you suggest, and to that end, we all (not just MOHOs) have judged or been judged with a distinct lack of love...gives pause for thought on what I can offer in such a universal subject...<br /><br />NED: Not sure about that hypothetical vision as a subject for this setting, but an interesting suggestion nonetheless.<br /><br />MOHOH: I remember that talk, and remember it was edited from the way it was delivered because it somehow made the church secondary and superfluous to the Gospel - fundamentally the truth, yet moreso than the Brethren were comfortable to admit. I definitely need to reread.Beckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06159223254071653666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-14464527172852563342011-07-14T22:55:26.577-06:002011-07-14T22:55:26.577-06:00Here's a topic: the difference between the Chu...Here's a topic: the difference between the Church and the Gospel. In a nutshell: the Church is a means to an end; it is not an end in itself. Here's a link to Elder Poelman's 1984 conference talk that explains this: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcM7koDc-jg" rel="nofollow">part 1</a> and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuUv4nca4Gc" rel="nofollow">part 2</a>.MoHoHawaiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15086670779804942122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-10414852335227816502011-07-14T22:08:49.088-06:002011-07-14T22:08:49.088-06:00Discuss the following hypothetical:
President Mon...Discuss the following hypothetical:<br /><br />President Monson and Pope Benedict have both had visions of Jesus Christ telling them that they should merge the Mormon and Roman Catholic churches and waste no time in doing so. They agree to meet face-to-face. Where will they meet and what will the agenda be for their first discussion together?<br /><br />The discussion about this hypothetical should faith-based and faith-reinforcing while emphasizing unconditional love toward all of God's children.Nedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05938186985738546670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-32603107983793612882011-07-14T20:13:17.238-06:002011-07-14T20:13:17.238-06:00I'm guessing these suggestions have come from ...I'm guessing these suggestions have come from people who have felt judged [unrighteously], or who have felt a distinct <i>lack</i> of love at some point or another in their lives.<br /><br />I'd suggest that <i>everyone</i> can relate to that feeling to at least some degree.<br /><br />I'd further suggest that all of us have felt judged and/or unloved by people <i>who are supposed to be better than that</i>, based on their professed religious beliefs.<br /><br />...and unfortunately, I suspect that most/all of us have been on the other end--judging or withholding love when we should have been better than that.<br /><br />... Perhaps that's the "twist" you're looking for? Or maybe not. Good luck with the lesson!Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16057695326304070182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-61525667456889934362011-07-14T18:54:09.310-06:002011-07-14T18:54:09.310-06:00So, unconditional love, righteous judgment, charit...So, unconditional love, righteous judgment, charity, true Christ-like love, grace... are all related and can be combined into a nice topic...<br /><br />but, a few follow up questions: Why Christlike love? What is it that makes this the topic? Is there a reason why this should be discussed when of course it has been a topic before? What is triggering you to say this? And how would you suggest teaching such a topic with a different twist that would mean something different and meaningful to you?Beckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06159223254071653666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-3986274895874313862011-07-14T18:31:13.698-06:002011-07-14T18:31:13.698-06:00GraceGraceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-3278409545203272182011-07-14T18:27:26.554-06:002011-07-14T18:27:26.554-06:00True Christ-like love... One that has no bounds. C...True Christ-like love... One that has no bounds. Christ loved everyone, no matter who they were or what their life situation.Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17081972911836313632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-26607555704809731972011-07-14T15:34:35.846-06:002011-07-14T15:34:35.846-06:00Charity: The Pure Love of ChristCharity: The Pure Love of ChristBretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04806433117335903276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-45835287149348769022011-07-14T14:35:03.723-06:002011-07-14T14:35:03.723-06:00Judge Righteous JudgementJudge Righteous JudgementNealhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03943975175380497835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-77797836875685284792011-07-14T13:27:53.004-06:002011-07-14T13:27:53.004-06:00unconditional loveunconditional loveA.J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13798297081032559012noreply@blogger.com