tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post114701873762178329..comments2023-10-12T06:29:13.317-06:00Comments on Beck: THE SPIRIT AND THE FLESHBeckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06159223254071653666noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-1147216832347163382006-05-09T17:20:00.000-06:002006-05-09T17:20:00.000-06:00Path: Congrats on your call! Let me know where yo...Path: Congrats on your call! Let me know where you're going.<BR/><BR/>-L-: Your kind words and offering of linking up our wives is intriguing. I've got to get to a comfortable place with her before I can really do this. It's still very hard for us to talk about it, though we know it is always there.<BR/><BR/>DW: I know it would be only "selfish" if gay sex was ALL that I desire. But, I struggle with the feelings of selfishness when I think of abandoning my family by coming out and even leaving them. I struggle with my feelings of selfishness when I want something (a gay relationship) that is just for ME and not something for THEM! That still bothers me... Maybe the selfishness is that I want BOTH a gay relationship and my family relationship.<BR/><BR/>I know there is nothing selfish in who I am at the core and trying to live the best I can. That really is all I'm trying to do here.Beckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06159223254071653666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-1147154057014139092006-05-08T23:54:00.000-06:002006-05-08T23:54:00.000-06:00It really comes down to selfishness...Beck, it's n...<I>It really comes down to selfishness...</I><BR/><BR/>Beck, it's not about selfishness. If having sex with guys was <I>all</I> you wanted to do, then I'd agree. <BR/><BR/>What you're struggling with is really the hugely difficult question of whether to live fully, according to who you are at your core. Nothing selfish in that.David Walterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16961185167489984607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-1147114315163627872006-05-08T12:51:00.000-06:002006-05-08T12:51:00.000-06:00Happy Sabbath to you, buddy. Although much of wha...Happy Sabbath to you, buddy. Although much of what I have written recently seems to show uncharacteristic staunchness, I acutely feel your conflict. I consider myself to be VERY mormon--the kind that can't walk away because I know it's true (like you). But I also consider myself to be VERY gay. Steeped in gayness, to borrow George Castanza's phrase. I want what I want with incredible clarity--and I want the opposite too.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your insightful posts.<BR/><BR/>I hope you can find the support you need to make it through these difficult times. If your wife is open to it, you are always welcome to put her in touch with my wife. I think once your wife is more familiar with the issues it may be easier and easier for her to be supportive. You can also find support from enlightened bishops (unfortunately, not all are quite there yet), COUNSELORS (note the emphasis), the scriptures, and prayer. Preachy, but too true not to say.-L-https://www.blogger.com/profile/02854867259876731599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26181705.post-1147051683972900382006-05-07T19:28:00.000-06:002006-05-07T19:28:00.000-06:00with the whole gender confusion, i just brush it o...with the whole gender confusion, i just brush it off. I don't deal with gender identity issues. and I'm not going to vain enough to think that they're talking to me because I deal with SSA. (okay, maybe i am just delusional and they ARE talking about me ;-) ) The church will soon become more and more clear on the situation many of the saints are in. We will soon see them define the terms for themselves. And then, after they define the terms and test the water a little more things will get better. <BR/><BR/>And I my bishop said they issued my call on friday, so I should know on wednesday where I'm going.AttemptingthePathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17691803785432956575noreply@blogger.com